1967 disc brake conversion problem

1967 XR7 came with power drums converted to disc
pedal appears to measure correctly
booster rebuilt by (booster somebody? in Oregon) is a midland no leaks 18in vacuum
conversion kit is from SSBC rotors, calipers etc…
front brake pressure measures 2400lbs at the calipers
the problem im having is no power assist very hard brake pedal
vacuum source comes from the back of the carb
I have been fighting this for years just now getting off my dead A** to fix

this is the distribution block and portioning valve

Vacuum for the booster should come from the manifold.

Just swapped no difference?

I had a set of SSBC calipers that had pistons frozen in the bores. Would show great pressure, but it would not stop the rotors. Replaced them, and all worked well. These were from like 5+ years ago when they were having troubles (i later found out).

Vac source should be from manifold & not share source like brake booster, headlights,…

Double check the check valve in booster…

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Thanks Bill, check valve good, I removed the engine vacuum completely, and used a vacuum pump still hard as a rock. I will check calipers, and will put vacuum supply on manifold.

Does anybody know the factory length of this push rod 67 cougar looks as though someone tried to repair???

It should extend out just under 1"

mine is an 1 5/16

Bingo!

Replace it

Wait, what part of the rod are we seeing? Is that the part that goes into the booster the into the master cylinder?

the part that goes in to the booster

I trimmed 5/16 off of it still have hard pedal?

I believe this is what the booster rod should look like.
As you can see, adjustment is done on the opposite end.

Rod - Brake Booster to Master Cylinder - Midland Power Brake - Repro ~ 1967 - 1969 Mercury Cougar / 1967 - 1969 Ford Mustang ( 1967 Mercury Cougar, 1968 Mercury Cougar, 1969 Mercury Cougar, 1967 Ford Mustang, 1968 Ford Mustang, 1969 Ford Mustang ) at West Coast Classic Cougar :: The Definitive 1967 - 1973 Mercury Cougar Parts Source

Update still have hard pedal! check valve good, rod length appears good? checked pedal travel with master cylinder off, from resting position, measurement from rubber seal to end of rod is 1 1/4 pedal being pushed to the floor measures 2 5/8 a total of 1.375 travel are these some what close? I hope this helps, with trying to fix this problem, before pulling the booster, because we all love pulling boosters

Does the car stop ok? If you have brakes, just a haard pedal then that is the booster or your not getting vacuum to it. If you are not getting braking then you need to check the calipers for frozen pistons.

Update! Booster sent out, checks good. Calipers not frozen, check good. Stop yes, lock the brakes up NO

I put gm metric calipers (came loaded ) on my old 47 sedan . After the test drive , i was going to put the drums back on!! Seem Speedway put lifetime pads in the calipers . Went and got some cheep soft organic pad and my brakes were wonderful

Cheap brake pads make a tremendous difference, here. Even with the extra force of the vacuum booster helping, it won’t matter if an elephant stands on the brakes; they only grip as well as the pads and brake surfaces will allow.
Our cars originally used asbestos pads that lasted a long time, and had lots of friction. After taking asbestos out to prevent people from getting cancer, the replacement materials often do not work nearly as well. Fortunately, there are some new pads that still work great!
I recommend Porterfield R4-S brake pads and shoes. They wear just fine, but have a very high coefficient of friction, and will stop you like the originals did. The ‘s’ in R4-S is important - that’s their street version. Race pads tend to do poorly until they get hot!

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Thanks for the reply, i’m using the SSBC brake conversion kit A-121 they us a pad that’s semi metallic part number D11. American Made Kelsey Hayes 4-Piston Front Drum to Disc Brake Conversion Kit W/Rotors. A121 | SSBC-USA

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Soooo, I did all I can, as far as diagnosis, researched different brake pads, and decided to go with EBC Green Pads. I installed pads, bedded them in per EBC, tested the brakes under normal, and heavy braking, and that is what fixed my hard pedal. I couldn’t ask for a better brake system, on an older car than what I have know. Thanks, for all the inputs.

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