428CJ SCJ 390GT Water Pump Cores C9AE-A Castings various dates. Look $75

Looking for something the other day, ran into a dark corner with a small stash of C9AE-A water pumps that I had collected over time for my 69 CJ, now on with it’s next owners

Dates available:
9F27: 1969 June 27 Very Late or VERY early 1970 models!
9L5: 1969 November 5 1970 production
9M10: 1969 December 10 Christmas car 1970 production
0A20: 1970 January 20 New year underway! 1970 production

Some of these were pulled from good running vehicles no longer wanted on the roads! Some were sitting for a while… Presume that what you get may need to be rebuilt…but some still had shiny new bolts on the back cover! Some rust visible on in/outs but no junk! If I wouldn’t use it on my car I wouldn’t buy it!!!

Pics representative of what I have.


If you need more info please ask!
Thanks for looking!
Steve

Do you have a C9AE-8505-A pump with original cast iron impeller?
Prefer the 9L5 if you still have it?
Can you pull backing plate and send photo?

DJ,

Yes, I do still have the 9L5 pump. It is the one in the picture.
It is likely rebuilt at some point, and has stamped steel impeller. I suspect that the Boss 302 guys have vacuumed the planet of the old impellers!

Let me know if you still need a picture.
Thanks for asking! Steve

Thanks for the reply. I’ll keep looking even though I know it’s an uphill battle finding one.

DJ,
Looks like there is a repop for the 302/289 crowd…
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334100284281

I cannot tell you if it would be the same as what was used in the FE pumps…
You may be chasing a holy grail…! :slight_smile:
Cheers!
Steve

Thanks buddy!

The impeller used in the FE was a ( 1968 / 69 ) C8AZ service part number. For the 289 ( HiPo ) and the 302-2V it was a C4OZ number. The 1970 302 “Special” was a D0ZZ part and the 302 and 351C for 1970 was a D0OZ part. The Unfortunately, the impeller was not shared between these two engine ‘families’ .

Well, as we know with Ford…what was “not shared” doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work!

I measured the FE impeller at aprox 4.5" IIRC and the bottom surface (against the cover) is about .600" or so above the water pump inner surface.

I would suspect the bearing shaft and diameters are same both where pulleys hang off the front, and where the impeller presses on the rear. Bearing cartridge diam ???

I see the outer impeller diameter being the most critical here…is it close? I may have a 351C pump around with no back on it to check…but would need to dig for a 302 version to see…

I doubt the SBF versions would be larger…but if so, could be fixed in a lathe!

If the cast iron one is not available, I do know that a fix or improvement, Ford or otherwise, was to attach a round steel sheet metal disc to the stamped steel impeller blades to act "like’ the cast version… I think perhaps Boss 2’s got this treatment??? Guys use this trick on the Clevelands… Use stainless pop rivets!!!

Cheers!!!
Steve

DJ,

After hearing from you that you are looking for a proper dated pump for your project, AND finding myself needing to move things around in my storage for electrical work etc, I figured seeing if I could move this pump to your garage may be a good way to roll!

In that light…would you be interested in this date coded pump for your cat if I dropped the price to $50??? I know shipping is still a good chunk for cast iron, but that’s out of my control. This way you can continue to search for an impeller solution, but at least you have the casting piece dialed in.

Let me know if interested!
Cheers!
Steve