I paid $12,650 for mine in Oct 2009 on Ebay and its a much nicer car.
Don, you mention much nicer. Are you talking about the once currently on ebay or the Lime Frost one or both? What work does/did your need to have done to it?
I was refering to the one at the top of this thread. This is what I bought [album]107[/album] S code, sunroof 3.25TL Running and driving. Car needs better paint and new seat upolstery and vinyl top. Is missing G mirror and air cleaner snorkle. Included with car was new carpet and head liner plus other parts.
Don;
Nice looking car, especially like the color combo. Anyone else have any sales/pricing info?
I heard an unconfirmed rumor that Scott Gregory was going to sell me his S code for $15K.
Al you’re just off a little in your thoughts. The correct text should read:
“Scott Gregory has confirmed he is going to sell Al Bundy his J-code G for LESS than $15K” lol
Opinions follow your results may vary…
Don’s car was probably the best deal on a G car I have ever seen. I think he managed to hit the exact bottom of the market, buying when every one else was in a panic. Good on Don, but I don’t think it is representative of the market today.
The car in the eBay auction has a nice group of options that make it desirable: Sunroof, S code 390, Tilt-Away, PS, PDB, AC. And the dark blue interior with the Diamond Blue exterior is a nice color combination, and even if you didn’t like the Diamond Blue you could go with several of the other Blue colors and not hurt the value much.
This car needs EVERYTHING, but at least you are not paying a premium for “okay” stuff that still all has to get replaced. A comparable XR7 GT would probably be worth about $4K so a $6K premium for a G car seems reasonable enough.
Given all of that, there are things that would cause me pause before jumping in with both feet: The sunroof is missing almost everything but the panel and this stuff is getting hard to find. The front valance looks crushed and may not be useable. The console is missing the most important parts. Getting all of this stuff found and working looks like a possible $4K additional expense. Why did they pull the original Blue Cougar seats out and put those Mustang seats in the car?
With some few exceptions, restoration isn’t a money making activity. If you make money on a car, it usually because the value of the car increased while you owned it, not that you were able to do a $40K restoration for $20K. People who can restore cars for less than the market rate shouldn’t be buying and selling cars, they should be selling restoration services. They would have so much less risk and a much larger market size.
Most of the money made in buying and selling cars comes from buying a car that was poorly marketed, and then marketing the car correctly, which includes clearly stating the asking price, doing a very good job of pointing out both the negatives and the positives, and then providing buyers with the ability to back out if the car is less than expected. Don Rush is the expert at doing this.
Well said Bill. I have to say I was shocked when Don posted what he paid for his 390 G. Perfect timing and well bought Don.
Steven
The seller of my G put it on a 3 day auction so that I’m sure had something to do with the price.
Well, let me throw my two cents out there for debate since were on the subject of xr7-G values. More then likely I’ll be offering mine for sale this spring and it just seems prices are scattered all over the place. Now this is just my own opinion so feel free to jump on in.
I’ve been sort of getting the feel for the high end G’s on both boards. From all the chatter and reference I’ve been hearing, and not necessarily seeing, I would say that Brian Carpenter, Craig Keith, Joe Valenti, and who ever owns the one John Benoit restored are more then likely the top dogs of the G cars. You can chime in Bill B. about your G’s because yours hasn’t really been talked about in detail except for the 428 G.
Maybe some of these guys will jump in here, so lets ask them. Would you take $80K for your cars? I’m sort of betting they wouldn’t sell them for that amount of money.(I’m waiting) So I had heard the one John Benoit restored was sold for $100K?
Then again that’s just hear say, can someone verify that? There’s a Hertz car on Mc.net that someone put in the for sale section for $72.5K Is anyone familiar with that one?
O.K. which brings me up to my G. It was originally a California car(I still have the black & yellow plates) it’s been in Michigan the last 10 years and only seen rain 3 times and it always has been garaged since it’s been here.
This car was also that dreaded Diamond blue color, I know there’s a few that might disagree, but it’s been disclosed, I changed the color. Professionally painted to the tune of 11.5k to calypso coral, an optional color in 1968. All thought this car is not an Hertz its loaded identically, actually one more option, an AM/8track stereo instead of a plain AM radio. This is a early built car March 15th. (even has the special performance tag on the door)
This car still retains ALL of it’s G specific parts. It still is wearing its original thermactor smog system.
Stuff that I have changed, AM/8 track to period AM/FM stereo(AM/8track goes with car) some other stuff also, but what ever I took off I kept and will go with car. For those who aren’t familiar with the Hertz cars let me tell you the options that’s on mine.S code 390 4V, automatic, sunroof, tilt a way steering, air conditioning, PS, PDB. AM/FM stereo.
As far as matching numbers I would have to say yes, everything points in that direction. I had the valve covers of and the head casting number dates match to the build of the car. Correct carb(rebuilt by pony carbs) correct distributor(rebuilt by Mike Ulrey/before his passing) To be honest I really don’t know about the trans to verify the numbers on top, because I never had the trans out. This car does show very well and if I had to describe it, I would say it’s a high end driver, or possibly a very high end driver. Just as a wild guess and not knowing whats on the horizon for G cars, my gut feeling this car would probably be in the top 20-25 G’s. The biggest minus is the car is not detailed underneath. Like I said I do drive it (only a couple hundred miles a year) The biggest thing for me is I’m getting too old and fat to be laying on my back washing and wiping the undercarriage down every time I drive it. These cars were meant to be driven, if it was any better at all, I wouldn’t drive it.
Where I’m at as a price is $45K firm. Now for the debate, I know it’s hard without seeing it in person, but am I too high?, in the ball park?, or too low? Some of the people that have seen the car, let me have it straight, How am I on price? How is my description?
Now back to the original G that this thread was about. My feeling where its at right now is about max for that condition.
You’re absolutely out of your mind. You need to just sell it to me for $5K and be done with it.
Seriously though, I wouldn’t even want to venture a guess without at least a whole bunch of pictures. The only thing I can say for certain is I would knock it down a bit for not being the original color. But that’s me, I’m sure others would feel differently.
I 2nd Al’s motion. Let’s see some pictures. I think it might be a bit high for a color change car. That said your G is probably over the top if it made a magazine cover so you might be right on the price. Oh yeah let’s see some pictures.
Steven
As a potential buyer I would have to consider it needing paint. Still 20-25K is not out of line. when selling you can always start high and come down. If your in a hurry to sell thats another issue and could allow for someone getting a bargain.
I think that you are probably a bit low for a sunroof big block G with all matching numbers. I would put it at closer to $55K make the underside spotless and then it would go to $60K, maybe a bit more if you did a good job marketing the car. I was familiar with the car from before you bought it and it was a very very nice car to begin with relative to what is left out there.
Craig Keith’s car is unlikely to ever be for sale, at least while Craig is still with us. I doubt seriously he would even hesitate to turn down $100K. So Craig’s car is not a good reference for price; he personally restored it, it’s the exact car he wanted, and that puts a premium on it that has nothing to do with actual market value.
On the other hand, several years ago I was offered a Black Cherry sunroof Hertz G for $62K from someone whose reputation makes it very likely that the car was worth that much (I’m not sure he’d want me to disclose his identity so I won’t), so that is at least one market data point. Based on your description, the price point you’ve selected sounds like it’s in the right ballpark but you might need to leave a small amount of wiggle room in that price.
The G on ebay has met its RESERVE, current bid is $9,590.00. However high bidder has a “Zero” feedback and third high bidder only has 1 feedback.
Thanks for your input guy’s, kinda what I expected on the paint subject. 90% of the time if its a desirable car and there’s been a color change it will affect the value. Would I change it back to diamond blue, hell no! I’ll take my chances on the color change.When I first got this car I took it to a few shows. The car absolutely got 0 attention. My wife wouldn’t even drive it.(but that’s a good thing) I took it over to a friends house who’s quite the car guy, his wife came out and looked at it and said it was nice, but a little girlie isn’t it? I know its a personal preference thing, but I now have a bunch of plaques and trophy’s collecting dust and a magazine framed with that same car on the cover. Needless to say I have to go with my personal experiences. I know when it comes time I shouldn’t be the one to market it. I have sold a lot of cars and it don’t take to much to whiz me off, when I have to deal with idiots. I can go on and on about some of my dealings, but I won’t. If I put down the word firm that’s usually what I mean, but yet you always get the people that think they have to barter. That’s when the conversation is over, I don’t mind, and even expect the occasional, your firm on the price? The first person that brings out a magnet automatically gets their fingers broke.(there’s other ways to detect bondo/filler) And the person that say’s I will give X amount cash, I have cash, real green, That’s when I usually say you can take that cash and wipe your butt with it and escort him/her out. I’ll talk cars until the cows come home and if you decide not to buy, fine. On one of my better deals a few years ago when I sold my corvette, I talked to a guy on the phone for over a half hour about it. He said he was really interested and flat out asked if I was jerking his chain about it. I told him if misrepresented the car at all, I would pay for his gas and buy him dinner to boot. He told me if that car was everything I said it was he would give me a thousand more then what I was asking for. This car only had 33K miles on it and it was practically brand new. He was a man of his word, I got 1K over asking price. I do want to fix a few thing’s on G before I even consider the sale. Just me being anal I guess.
The car sold. I wonder if the buyer is someone from this forum or the “other one”?
All I can tell you for sure is that it wasn’t me. But you probably could have guessed that.
Good to know, since I always bring a refrigerator magnet with me when I look at a car. I’m not enough of a body man to always see where bondo has been used and I don’t like surprises (even well done ones), so I check.
I agree that selling a car brings one into contact with dreamers and schemers, but I’ve always felt that kind of goes with the territory. I know I’ve felt good about the buyers to whom I’ve eventually sold my cars. I’m still in touch with some of them.
On the color change, I had a Black Jade Q-code, 4-speed '69 Mach 1 that I changed to Raven Black with the red stripe kit. I think that color change actually increased the value of the car for the guy who bought it. He wasn’t a purist and wasn’t looking for a concours car, so the value was in how much he liked that combination. You might experience the same thing with yours, especially because it’s not being sold as a concours car.