Lighting issues

Doing a from scratch build on an inherited 67 Cougar. Wired in the harness, and was able to start the car with the key. Great start point. Now I’ve made my way to the lighting aspect of the car, and I’m having some odd issues. Swapping out the harness for another one I have fixed some key issues, but I still have no signals, no headlights, and no hazards. Just to clarify, I have brake lights, and driving lights. That is all.

I am missing at least one relay, under the drivers side of the dash. I am missing the K-7 (https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/c7wb-13a366-a.html?sessionthemeid=26) I also have another plug with 4 wires that I don’t know what it’s for. Two black wires (one hot), a red, and a white (red or white is hot, can’t remember)

The front driving lights (in lower valance) only work when one click out on the light switch. When light switch is pulled all the way out (assuming this is the brights?) the front valance lights shut off.

The sequential unit runs and outputs voltage when the hazards are on, but the lights do not flash.

When the hazards are on, and I move the signal switch in either direction, the relay on the sequential unit clicks.

After swapping out two different harnesses (engine bay and under dash) and tracking down relays in boxes of crap I have accrued, I am at my wits end. I have no manuals to go off of, wiring diagrams are near impossible to find, or hard to read. I don’t know what needs to be plugged into what anymore, and am having alot of trouble figuring out what needs to go where. Is there a good manual to purchase that would have all of this info? I’ve been doing pretty good so far, but winter is approaching and this car needs to move (legally). Just trying to speed up my process, I find the wiring bits slow me down the most!

Front parking lights are supposed to work like that. You can move on to other problems.

I was thinking that, but someone else thought it was odd. Thanks for clarifying.

You don’t mention what model 67 you are working on. The wiring harness’s are both model specific and year specific- a standard is different from XR7 and from 67 to 68. Hopefully you had a harness from same model and year to swap. WCCC has some wiring on their site for free download and NPD did offer plastic covered diagrams for 67 standard and XR7 as well as 68 standard. Not an easy task swapping harness’s in these cars- a lot of wiring in a Cougar especially if you compare to a Mustang.

It’s a 67 base model cougar that came with a 289. My two harnesses are slightly different. How do I tell if my harness is from an xr7 or base model? I have a plethora of parts and little to no knowledge on what is xr7 or not.

It’s a c6 auto trans btw.

By part # is best way to identify wiring harness. Takes some work but over the years a lot of things get swapped around with these cars.

Unlikely that you have a C6 mated to a 289.

Ok I’ll have to peruse the parts catalogue to see what I’ve got. Both are different. I know I have XR7 parts also.

I crammed a 460 in this unit.

From what I can see, I think I have a 68 xr7 harness currently in the car. I have some photos here, maybe someone can tell me if I’m right or wrong here. Hopefully these links work:

The cluster I currently have in the car:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/22a1432f-f259-46f6-bdbb-22e6da1e04de

Tag on the under dash harness I have installed currently:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/9b3fbce2-0dd2-42ef-b1b1-be9d85331015

Ignition switch/plug:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/2820e7dc-c08d-4396-a415-402e989e857c

Two wires from my column that I have no idea what are for:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/d2eb6ddf-39a6-46ef-aa94-c0b0fa3b6095

Column harness:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/d2e6c6f7-f1b5-4938-8848-43b3c541de0b

Engine harness connections:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/2ceae0c0-fe10-4ee1-a0a8-bfac405bba5f
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/03ed1258-260e-4147-96cd-66141bfdb1e0

Sequential unit (I have another one that is different, but it didnt seem to power up)
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/9b02ba81-5f36-4acd-b0fb-b80ab6ebbe70

These two plugs I am having troubles with figuring out what they are for:
1:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/83e7dfe3-40d7-4c28-8654-6ddee8c2fc46
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/bfcfef71-c1ec-41dc-8b47-e0d32a3af1c7
2:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/c9b114f8-bc55-428b-8378-6b964d1b55df
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/2abac95d-c5ad-430d-baea-31c8fca7095d

Passenger side plugs, no clue what they are for:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/e670a9b5-a983-454b-82fd-3927ba26c749
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/2094b8ff-19a6-461e-a3cd-7a0c41440e6c

Another cluster I have, unsure if it’s different than the one currently installed:
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/ee8745f1-fc9d-45f2-81ef-0eb8ec1ede8b

And one last one for now, what the hell is this for? I have to add I have a duraspark II ignition module in the car, so I don’t know if this can is factory for the engine. Engine is a 69’ 460. The white connector plug for the coil is from a mid 70’s Mercury I found at the junkyard, so I don’t know if that taped off plug needs to connect to anything I am running.
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/p/f3799810-c8a7-4f4e-b951-43caf3fab0bf

The instrument cluster in your picture is for a 1967 standard Cougar, not an XR-7. Take a picture of the alternator connectors. That would be definitive.

I had a hunch that this car was originally a manual, just based off of the wiring harness that I believe was originally in the car, (removed and replaced with the harness shown in the pictures posted previously). Will using a cluster from a manual cause me issues with the harness I am currently running?

Here are the alternator harness wires:
Back of alternator:

Top of alternator:

Alternator harness plug:

So it is hooked up to work properly with a '67 standard dash using an idiot light for the Alternator. The whole wiring harness is documented in excruciating detail in the factory shop manual.

Where can I acquire this shop manual? I’m sure it’d help me immensely and then I’d stop pestering the folks on this message board for the time being :smiley:

Lots of them on eBay and Amazon.

The two plugs you can’t identify in the driver’s side footwell are the footwasher plug (4 pins) and the dimmer switch plug (3 pins).

Footwasher plug? I assume you mean the window washers, am I correct?

And I have a dimmer switch somewhere. Maybe that’s why my headlights don’t come on.

Footwasher plug: push the foot-pedal for windshield washers, only on 67/68 Mustangs and Cougars.
I’m sorry if you thought I was plugging for a young gal dressed in a French Maid outfit washing your feet…

The phrasing threw me off is all. I think I’ve even looked at that foot pedal a dozen times, so that’s installed along with my dimmer switch. Installed the reverse lights, side marker lights, another relay over on the passenger side, and now the relay in the trunk cycles like its signaling, then the cycling slows down as if power is dropping. Still no hazard lights or signal lights.

I’ve got a post loaded with confusion and questions here, beware.

I’ve learned a bit since I last posted here and made good progress on the car. Had some seized brake calipers to repair and did some mounting of major components in order to drive the car. Test drives are fun to say the least, and a little quieter with the exhaust on.

Learned that my fenders are from a '68, as they have the marker lights. As far as I can tell, the '67 fenders do not have marker lights?
I have since changed the harness (had 1967 harness before) that runs to the rear tail lights/sequential unit, and the tail light bulb harness to match the 1968 harness I have in under the dash, and in the engine bay. I have a mystery plug with 3 wires (white/blue, green/white, white) In the trunk. Not sure where this is supposed to go. (pictures below)
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/a/29432940-4f96-44ce-ab92-eb8156ad02ed/p/1310d94d-497a-4209-b579-a959e810b2e0
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/a/29432940-4f96-44ce-ab92-eb8156ad02ed/p/ae5ce6ee-a912-4bf4-b85c-17841b111fd9

My front marker lights turn on when the key is turned to ACC. Unsure if this is normal or not.
4 way flashers activate the sequential motor, and power comes in/out of the rotary switch accordingly. Although I don’t think the sequential unit is supposed to run when the 4 ways are engaged. Am I correct here?
I am currently running a K7 dash flash relay from a 1967. With this relay the sequential unit runs when the emergency flashers switch is on. When this relay is grounded the dash lights for the signals both come on solid, no flashing. The 1968 K7 that I have doesn’t seem to do anything. No dash lights, no sequential unit running. Although with the emergency flasher switch ON, when I activate the signal lever left or right the emergency relay in the trunk clicks once. I have opened up the '68 K7 relay and it looked good inside. I also re-soldered the ground strap.

Now for the ultimate mystery. I was under the impression that I had a 1968 column in the car. I have two wires (brown, and yellow/brown) that come from the TSS. There is no missing plugs in the wire harness, so I’m clueless as to where these are supposed to go. I cannot locate these wire colors in neither my '67 or '68 wiring diagrams. Pictures below.
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/a/29432940-4f96-44ce-ab92-eb8156ad02ed/p/a11e93d9-0349-45a9-8679-5410a78a855c
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/a/29432940-4f96-44ce-ab92-eb8156ad02ed/p/8bd74736-94e7-46a1-94f8-d532ac0de2b9
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/a/29432940-4f96-44ce-ab92-eb8156ad02ed/p/88a9bc60-65f6-4e94-beac-d50ce61e84eb
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/a/29432940-4f96-44ce-ab92-eb8156ad02ed/p/070d5ecd-9454-45e9-bf13-ea70d22ad70b
https://app.photobucket.com/u/huwhackt/a/29432940-4f96-44ce-ab92-eb8156ad02ed/p/e452ddc2-a9e6-46c2-b133-6f1a46c297c9

*Edit
I’ve got voltage at 2/3 wires at my k7 flasher plug. I jumped 12v to the one missing voltage and now after that my sequential unit runs but no exterior lights flash when I signal left/right, the indicator light on the dash comes on but no flashing. I’m getting somewhere. Just not fast.

I am having issues with my turn signals in which only two of the three lights are working. Not sure what the issue can be and this is above my paygrade. I converted them to LED (not from WCC as they were out of stock when I was looking for them) and installed the new turn signal relay.

Any ideas? Or better yet, any recommendations for a shop that is familiar with Cougars in the Southern California/Orange County area? This seems to be a little above my paygrade to figure out and I can use some help.