Hello all!
My name is David, and am new to the group. I am putting some posts out there to try to clear up some questions as I am trying to complete a long overdue re-assembly process on my 67 S-code car.
Here is the problem…
I bought my car years ago in pieces. The guy I bought it from was in process of an low budget restoration. The car was for the most part totally disassembled with parts all over his garage. Most fasteners were just thrown into cans or boxes mixed up and not marked. It was a solid body though, and had what I wanted (S-code, lime frost, with ivy interior) I wasn’t set on 4-speed or auto, but got a 4-speed which is great. So getting the car home I notice it had the special console mount still fastened in place in the car, and the AC/heat vent under the dash is the special one they used with console cars so it blows out the sides. And there were screw holes in the floor that were in the right appr. place for the console, and a console rear light in parts boxes. There was also a AM 8-track player laying in the car which is “cool”. Anyway no console to speak of however. and no other radial bezel. I am pretty sure the car had a console though with all the clues.
So the car came with the toploader hanging in the car, with a hurst shifter sticking up through the floor. So the question would be…Did they use the hurst shifter in the 67 cougar 4-speed cars? And if they did is it going to “fly” with a console car? I try to look for shift boots (upper and lower) and don’t find what I am after. I might have found a lower one (can’t remember) but upper ones I usually only find hurst style used in 1970. All the upper boots for 67 have a round hole in them. Even with those with the round hole it must be that there is a special one to use with a console, and I don’t see those with the suppliers I have looked at. Like I said I will see boots and the description either don’t say or if it does it says “used with non-console cars”
So recap…Would a hurst shifter been used at all in 67, and will it work with a console? What is the correct boot to use with a console car? (depending on shifter of course)
Thanks in advance for any and all help!
David
Your Cougar would not have come from the factory with a Hurst shifter, so that would have been an aftermarket add-on. To find out exactly what options your car had, I suggest getting a Marti report for it.
Thanks for the reply.
Do you know if the Hurst shifter is going to work with the center console, or would I have to go to a stock shifter?
I have looked at the full Marti reports that will give me all that info. Not something they give away 
David
A number of different Hurst shifters have been available over the years for toploader 4-speeds. Some will work with a console, some “race” and high-performance units and will not. Assuming you have the typical Mustang/Cougar “Competition Plus” unit, it will work.
Years ago, I modified a stock shift lever to fit the Hurst shifter in my '69, so that I could maintain an original look. You could do the same, or there may even be aftermarket levers that serve the same purpose now.
Anyhow, congrats on the car. '67 big-block 4-speed is a great combination.
Thanks for the info!
I does appear to me to be just the completion plus unit. It really has a rather tight pattern with not much throw. The only thing I will have to come up with is an appropriate shift boot.
I am pretty excited about my car. I actually have had it about 20years already, and it has been in new paint for about 10. Still don’t have it all back together yet. Need to quit going so slow at it.
What exactly are you calling a “special console mount”? I ask because there is no bracket or other type of mount that is attached to the floor for a 67-8 console. As suggested above the best way to find out if your car left the factory with a console would be to purchase a Marti report. You do not need to buy the Elite report, you can purchase the less expensive report and still receive the same information.
Again as said above your car would not have had a Hurst shifter from the factory. Ford did not use Hurst shifters until the 1970 model year. 1969 and earlier cars used Ford shifters. If you are going to keep the Hurst shifter I would purchase the upper boot for the 1970 with Hurst shifter.
Randy Goodling
CCOA #95
Randy,
Thanks for the reply. I wasn’t referring to a bracket on the floor, but that metal bracket that helps fasten up under the dash. I will check out the price of the Marti reports again, but I am pretty confident it had one based off the other clues. I have checked out a few cars in salvage yards that had consoles and some that didn’t, and in every case if they had a console they had holes in the tunnel, and if they didn’t they didn’t. Now granted some where mustangs, but shouldn’t make a difference.
Anyway, don’t much matter as a console is a classy edition to a cougar, and I have a relatively good one, decent base, chrome fair and have had the pads cleaned up and re-dyed. Just needed to figure out the shifter and boots.
Thanks again, for posting.
David
How about som pictures of your Cougar, shifter and console. Welcome to the Classic Cougar Community.
Steven
Do you have the 4 speed console top?
It sounds like you are refering to the bracket that goes on the back of the radio, that is the only special bracket that I can think of that it needed for a console. You are correct about the holes in the tunnel, unless a car had a console those holes would not be there. Of course that does not mean that someone did not add a console after the car left the factory. As I recall the lesser priced Marti report was about $35. They could have gone up though.
Just an FYi about consoles, in case you or anyone else reading this thread does not already know. There are a lot of differences in 67-68 consoles. There are standard consoles and XR-7 consoles. There are differences between 67 and 68 standard consoles, the roll up door has different handles, the top pads are different, the rear ashtrays are different. As I recall the radio knobs are different as well. There are differences between a console with an automatic or manual transmission. The console bases are different between a car with A/C and a car without A/C.
Randy Goodling
CCOA #95
Steven,
If I get a chance I will get some pictures at some point. It has been colder than cold here in WI for being almost the 1st of March. It would be good to share with all. I know I love looking at other guys pics, makes me drool I must say though you guys have some cars that would put mine to shame as far as restoration quality.
As to the other persons question, yes I have the 4 speed top console plate. I actually have two. An original one that is broke, and a repro one by Scott Drake. I have a pretty decent top pad as well. That was a rare find on Ebay. It is imprinted some from the years of previous owners piling stuff on it, and it did have a fingernail size rip in it, but the guy that re-dyed it did as good of job as he could filling that tear, and the dye job taking from black to ivy looks good. I watch for those pads every once in a while, on Ebay and usually don’t ever see one worth saving. A better one than mine would be nice someday, along with tilt away, but that is a dream 
Randy, thanks for your input as well. It took a little studying initially to get the whole console thing down to be sure I was using the right one. I know the base I bought had already been trimmed to use with AC, but it was a base for an automatic, so I had to trim some plastic for that subtle difference. My top long chrome trim piece was also for an auto. Once I found a 4-speed insert plate I then had to do some trimming on the long chrome trim piece as well to modify it to accept the 4-speed insert. I have noticed differences in the door and ashtrays. I thought that was mostly between the mustangs and cougars? I still need to work on radio knobs. I plan on using the AM 8track. Don’t listen to the radio much anyways. I do need to source some speakers though to put in the plastic pods down behind the kick panels. Not an adder as far as I know. They were in the car when I bought it.
Spring breaks, and I will get some pics for you all.
David
The slide up door and ashtray differences are 67 vs 68, not Mustang vs Cougar. The vinyl padded piece for the radio face and the top of the console are different between Mustang and Cougar. If the AM/8 track is original to your car then it would have the kick panel speakers. Here again having a Marti report would confirm if your car originally had an AM/8 track radio.
Randy Goodling
CCOA #95