Restomodding

Ever watch shows on automotive oriented channels that show a ‘project car’ and the host, typically in addition with an assistant, who are going to make a bunch of ‘Wonderful Improvements’ to the car of which they make look so easy almost any monkey can do it? Unlike most in the hobby they have a fully equipped facility, over 20 thousand dollars in tools and equipment, new components are often sponsored by the manufacturers who make them as the program is advertising their product. This pretty much meaning an unlimited budget. There are a lot of people who get trapped into the appeal and before they know it, the time and expense is far more than they bargained for. Hell, the tv or magazine article said it would be easy but, here you are with your unfinished project that has gone way beyond your time and the market value of the car itself. The car, if a completed restomod has more likely lost value and you are wondering ‘what have I done?’. Hindsight is always 20/20.

I went down this road in my early 20’s and had regretted it. Therefore, I like to give some pointers for those who plan to go down this route so you don’t make the same mistakes I did back when.

1: What are you going to use the car for? This question is important as it sets your overall aim to what the completed project is to become as it is the foundation for all the decisions that follow.

2: Research, research, research. I cannot emphasize that enough. Before taking out the first screw only to end up screwing yourself deep into the project learn every thing about your car, how it was designed and engineered. Find articles and visit forums of similar upgrades to gain insight as to the issues that you may or will encounter. I once had a 1970 Torino with a C4 trans. ‘Put in a C6’ someone advised. I got a C6. Didn’t anticipate having to change out the driveshaft as the latter trans is longer then the other. While you won’t know everything, as no one really does, the more you know early on the less surprises to be had.

3: Take your time with studying. If your car is drivable, enjoy it as it is.

4: Formulate a plan. This will include what you intend to do with each system, choice of parts manufactures, services, vendors, the amount of time and budget. This too including a buffer for incidentals. Try to get all the components that you need, or as much as possible, before starting. There will be times when surprises come about during the project. This cannot be avoided. By putting in the research and planning ahead of time most of these issues will be more minor than not.

5: Once you begin stick with that plan and do not change it for ANY reason. Say you buy one component and find something else that is said to be better. You get that instead. Is it compatible with everything else? After all, you want all the systems to work in harmony. One or a few changes can cause a domino effect that can sink your project like the Titanic. Also, do not let friends, family or acquaintances influence you otherwise. It is your time, money and personal investment. While they may mean well the ‘execution’ stage is not the time for outside influence.

These are just a few things that might help your project go much easier.

I would add stay organized. Especially if you’re like most people and have to step away for a bit.

One thing that some do not understand is that when you being modifying things you become the engineer. The factory settings no longer apply for things like the carb and distributor curve when you change a cam heads or even install a set of headers. You have to be prepared to figure out how to make things work.

I mostly agree and I have seen it happen more then once when someone gets in over their head but it also goes the other way. I’ve seen guys take on way more then I thought they could handle only to learn a bunch of new skills and experience then be proud of what they built. I learned how to weld because I had a project that needed welding. I bought a welder and taught myself how to do it. It’s been a valuable skill set ever since.

I do think what happens a lot of times is the lack of understanding of cost and time involved in a heavy modification project. Whatever you think it will cost it’s a good idea to budget double, then if you need to buy Equpitment to do the job yourself that’s also a factor. Also one needs to have the motivation to see it through, sometimes a plan won’t work out and you have to change plans. This could be a costly and consuming setback that can easily break ones motivation .

Like Bill mentioned, the vehicle is engineered to operate in factory configuration with its set of requirements of the day. When changing things around you need to understand the cause and effect you will create with whatever your working on and take appropriate sets to make sure everything works together. Perfect example is the engine. If you only slap in a camshaft and do not address other areas like the cylinder heads then you could be making it run worse then your intended improvement. However if you address the heads, intake, exhaust and carb then you can make great improvements.


I can’t tell you how many times I have been asked if I’m sticking a coyote motor in my car and surprised when I say no. What people don’t typically understand is while it appears like a easy swap they they have read about or seen on shows they don’t realize what really has to happen for the swap to work. Not to mention the money involved just to buy the parts you would need. While I would love to do it it’s not something in my budget time or money wise right now.

One other point is when it comes to this kinda of hobby. Do not expect to make money on your project. You will typically be upside down on both time and money before your done!

Fortunately for me, I did most of what you recommend before I got my car. I was a big fan of those Motor Trend Channel shows and my first thought was “keep the outside shell and look, but build a new modern car underneath”. How about a fancy four-link, some front coilovers, and a 5.0 Coyote? How badass to do power leather seats with side and leg bolsters, an all new dash with digital gauges and a big-display head unit!!

Well…the more I researched, the more I realized how original it is, and changed my path. I focused on upgrading safety, drivability, and reliability, so I could make the most of its intended purpose - driving.

Even though I can’t imagine selling it, I tried to only make “major” changes that would be attractive to just about any future owner, and kept most of the takeoffs:

• Returned the PO’s rigged fuel system to (almost) stock and repaired the improperly installed cam he was chasing with fuel system mods
• Swapped the original 3-speed for a T5 and the rear gears from 2.75 to 3.50
• Replaced front suspension control arms and rubber.
• Upgraded the cooling and added air-conditioning
• Changed out the front drums for disc
• Added a passenger-side mirror
• Installed driver-side seat extender
• Replaced all lighting with LED and electric headlight motor
• Upgraded to 3-point seatbelts
• And finally…an original AM/8-track radio upgraded with Aurora, nice speakers, and plenty of Rush 8-tracks.


I’ve since learned to do a lot of my own wrenching. Fortunately, Don Rush and Scott Taylor have helped me through every bit of it. Yet even with these relatively reasonable mods, I’m probably still upside down - cost-wise…but I don’t care. As others have said, it is my hobby, my therapy, and my retirement gift to myself! :pimp:

Kid coworker when he saw my car. “Hey you should put a coyote engine in it!” Idiot

The P.O. 18 year old son was actually talking to gas monkey garage about doing a resto.

They would’ve trashed a perfect survivor I think.

Kid coworker when he saw my car. “Hey you should put a coyote engine in it!” Idiot

The P.O. 18 year old son was actually talking to gas monkey garage about doing a resto.

They would’ve trashed a perfect survivor I think.

The opportunity to learn new skills is a mentioned benefit as there is no better teacher than experience. This experience too may also be the barometer of which one is actually on the competency hierarchy. Many, myself included, have made the error of overestimating our ability to which the consequence is very drastic and not to the original intent. Experience shows where one is in that scale and to be conscious in not only the areas in which you excel, but were you fault as well. Taking note of that at the inception of any skillset the level of mistakes is most often greatest at the start. Over time these errors, while still escalating, mitigate as successes start becoming the prominent factor rather than vise-versa. Here the ‘learning curve’ takes a parabolic form as the ratio of failure to success becomes equal then surpasses the former during the transitional period from novice to mastery.

I always laugh at the little one sentence lines that hide hours of work. Lines such as:
-First, we removed the engine.
-Then we spent some time repairing some rust in the quarter panels.
-We brought in Jimmy from BRAND to rewire the car.
-Then Tim welded up some custom headers.

The amount of time I’ve spent ‘becoming my own engineer’ can not, and will not be calculated :laughing:

That being said, I’m floored with the result. It was all well worth the hours (days) spent measuring, grinding, and smacking the bejeezes out of my headers.

Just know that unless you’re just replacing your cap and rotor, block off more time than you think. And if you’re me, even a cap and rotor ends up meaning that I have to slightly disassemble part of my front suspension :joy:.

Ken

All too true.
When I “finished” restoring my ‘69, (after going 3 years and way over budget and doing everything myself) my then 70 year old dad asked me what I thought it would cost to get his ‘57 chevy belair 4 door up and running and looking good again. So, I did some parts cost research, totaled everything up and gave him a ball park figure. I then told him to triple it and that would be about right. He decided not to tackle it at that time. He will be 90 in October and I will end up re-doing that car eventually since my brother and I drove it some in high school back in the early 80’s.

Two points to this: 1) you are never really finished. 2) triple what you think it’s going to cost…even if you are doing all the work yourself.

It’s all worth it if you like learning and doing mechanical stuff and you are not doing it purely as an investment you expect to come out ahead on.

I learned this formula a long time ago and I’ve shared it before. I think it bears repeating here.

If you have a car project, and I’m talking ANY car project, you need three items: Time+Talent+Money= Finished Car Project. You need an equal amount of all three. If you’re short in any one area, you need to be able to make up for that deficit via the other two areas. If you’re short in two of those areas, you best have a boatload of the third one.

I won’t disagree with the challenges of modding your car, but I don’t like when people worry about value. I guess if you flip cars for a living and try to buy low sell high, ok. But for the rest of us, I don’t try to determine the ROI of my golf club set, or my rifles, or my gym membership- why would I for my cars? Ive had my car for 34 years and counting… if I want to bolt something to my car that Ford’s accountants didn’t approve of, I do it without concern for resell.

Lots of valid points in this thread.
Another point is to be wary of taking on more than you can handle.
If it’s your first project, don’t plan a full restoration…that’s not a FIRST PROJECT scope you can handle…start with slight mods and work your way up to it, unless like Local Hero stated you have lots of time+money because you obviously don’t have the talent yet.

My Cougar is my first “real” project, but I did have a 1978 Firebird Esprit that I did an engine swap and stereo install…I was 19 so you can imagine where my priorities were :wink:
The Cougar isn’t going full restoration or full restomod, just some upgrades are planned for safety, drivability and enjoyment.

My car is four wheel drum, so I want to upgrade to front disc. The car will get all new suspension bushings and the three speed manual will come out and get saved, but a 5spd will be going into the car (might change the rear gears to 3.55 from the 3.08 that’s in there). Then the usual rust repair and floorpan replacement. I just want a nice cruiser. I’m not after a show car, just a nice 20 footer. :sunglasses: