I bled the brakes after the new brake shoe install and I did not noticed the bleeders and where their facing. I’ll check it out when I install the new self adjusters and cable hopefully Tuesday/Wednesday.
My brakes had no problem before I changed the differential. But as one of you pointed out I put the brakes back together wrong and the cable the hold the adjusters was pinched behind the groove it’s supposed to sit in.
What I couldn’t understand is why when I take the drum off it comes off so easy. But thinking about it and correct me if I’m wrong. If that cable for the self adjuster is not doing it’s job. The brakes will expand out when used but if I back up and put the brakes on they should contact! If that is correct that would explain why the drum is easy to come off as I back my car into the driveway every time
Easy enough to test your theory. Take the car out for a drive like you have been doing since replacing the rear and brakes. Then when you get back home pull into your driveway instead of backing in. Then see how the brake drum comes off.
Randy Goodling
CCOA #95
To late
I replaced the adjusters and that cable. Made sure the cable did not get caught behind where it’s supposed to sit.
Took the car out for a short ride. Checked the temperature of the drums. Drivers side 108 degrees and passenger side 145 degrees.
I didn’t adjust the drivers side out as much and it showed. So far so good. But I’ll have to take her for a longer run to confirm. Thanks for all your valuable intake!
Ed Zackery.
Been there done that, kinda like reverse polish notation, doesn’t look right, but it is…
Your gonna make us look aren’t you! Lol
Yup, I just crawled under mine to confirm I got the calipers on right last summer.
I haven’t had a chance to but I guess I’ll taking my tires off and checking that the long brake shoes are on the emergency brake side.
So
What is the normal temperature of brakes on a normal drive?
Good temperature is, so they are not too hot to touch.
That’s the first. I’ve never none anyone that can touch a brake drum or rotor after a car has been driven. While at least I wouldn’t touch one.
Well I have to take the drums off again as I went for a cruise yesterday and when I got back the LR was 238 degrees and the RR was 259 degrees at the drums.
So either I have a seal leaking (new seals) or if I did put the brake shoes on backwards ( longer brake pads not on the emerg cable side. Other then that I give up!
The differential was at 125 degrees so from what other people say that normal.
Sounds normal. You said originally they were over 400 degrees - that’s too hot.
Brakes turn kinetic energy into heat. If you are using them a lot (race track) they are going to get very hot. If you don’t use them hardly at all they will stay pretty cool to the touch even. If they drag a bit they will also get warm to hot.
FOUND IT!!!
Took the drums off and there is was! Gear oil coming from the axles. Both sides! I know it had to be that!
So I was thinking to myself. Why would that happen and why both sides? Then it hit me! They must have given me axle seals for a 31 spline axle. That would make sense! No?
I call Napa and they looked up what I purchased. It said the seals were for 28 spline axles. But that had to order them from their warehouse. Doesn’t mean someone didn’t ship Napa the wrong seals. I know they didn’t look at the parts I picked up to make sure they were the correct part number. So I order more from Napa and order two from fat guys. They’ll all be in tomorrow. I will compare them and install a pair.
If that wasn’t the issue why else would the axles leak?
You definitely want to fix that but it would not cause over heating.
I remember when I was 18(I’m turning 60) I had a ford mechanic replace my rear end gears and gear oil leaked onto my shoes and didn’t notice. The brakes locked up. He told me when he fix the issue that was the cause of the brakes locking up. That just stuck with me. If it’s true or not.
I took the axles out and pulled the seals. They are the correct seals which is confusing. How is the oil getting past the seal?
I’m I supposed to use silicone behind the seal? Did I set the seal in to far. I see the axle is thicker at the seal then quickly reduces.
A lot of grease or brake fluid contamination makes your brake lining mu head to zero. A little will swell the friction material and can make the mu go high as the brakes will become grabby or depending how closely they were adjusted they will drag. That is why avoiding contamination on the shoes and drum is very important.
Is the vent on the differential clear? Otherwise it will pressurize as it heats up and push oil out.