I totally agree with the math not adding up. I don’t think those numbers are accurate. By what your saying that each line is just based of the 1969 Cougar hardtop, the SCJ number should be the same on both reports, regardless of ram air/transmission.
I remember the previous thread about the 68 CJ 4:30 4speed car, and the owner was not happy because his report would not breakdown how many 4:30/4speed cars were produced throughout total production but was limited to cars that were the similar color. (I believe). That’s why I was leaning toward those SCJ numbers being related to some other statistic not listed, or just could be a mistake.
I’m with you - no disrespect to Mr. Marti - he can’t reasonably be expected to keep 50 years of Fords and all the make / model info straight all of the time. I think it was probably a mistake, or even a change in the way he filtered the data. Notice the date on the Q-code report is from 2004, while the R-code report is from 2010.
Really though, this is the sort of information that could be determined relatively easily by requesting (and paying for) some simple research. I’ve always wanted to request some of this obscure data, but there always seems to be something else to spend the money on. I have a hungry SCJ that requires care and feeding, LOL!
So since we have 2004 and 2005 Marti for the Pfeiffer Blue SCJ, lets add the 2018 version of the Marti for the same car which lists 132 base hardtops with SCJ. All the posted Marti’s are for 4.30 cars. Be curious what 3.91 cars say. The difference between the total SCJ numbers makes me question the 25 C-6 / 4.30 rear end cars on the 2005 report for the blue car. 9F91Q575847_dlxrpt.pdf (200 KB)
9F93R538911 is my former car., and the one in my signature.
It born a manual steering car.
The present owner must have ordered a fresh Marti Report. All of the paperwork, including window sticker, sales contract and owners manual were lost, prior to his taking possession.
9F93R555097, (blue sunroof) I am pretty sure is Jason S’s car from Phoenix. It should be a V code axle, and also had flow thru ventilation. This car’s Marti Report is the one that had 1 of 53 for drag pak, that I mentioned above.
Now, I know I’m not the best at math… but I’m not seeing consistant numbers that add up properly.
I have the same info as Diego posted at the top, with the Q & R code numbers for CJ & SCJ, but I’m always hesitant to trot them out because I can’t get any data from a Marti Report that lines up with any of the numbers. My understanding is that there were 79 SCJ Eliminators built in '69 (13 Q + 66 R). All of which would have been Dearborn cars.
At least one of the Marti Report for 9F93R555097 backs up the 33 XR-7 SCJ’s with 4-speed. So there is a consistant number there.
I’ve always believed the “after 2/20” thing was merely an indication that the Drag Pack wasn’t properly called or marketed that until that date. Before that date, ordering 3.91 or 4.30 gears triggered the same component package, so the net effect is the same–it’s just marketing.
That’s why I was thinking the window sticker was for a 3.50 TL car, cuz the price for the TL and optional gears seemed too cheap for all the improvements.
Note the following is for Mercury;
Which is why the bean counters, warranty and marketing departments came up with the “Drag Pak” option. It allowed an increase in price to account for the additional components that engineering mandated for the 3.91 and 4.30 gear sets due to oil temperature.
The Super Drag Pak option in 1970 was added as its original intent was that all 4.30 gear sets would be installed with a Detroit NoSpin which involved addtional cost and to allow a premium.
1970 Drag Pak 3.91 TL msrp $155.50 dlr cost $122.95; Super Drag Pak 4.30 DL msrp $207.30 dlr cost $163.94
There was insufficient supply of Detroit Lockers to meet the demand that resulted in some of the Super Drag Pak orders being filled with 4.30 Traction Lok instead of a Detroit Locker. This is sometimes noted on the Eminger invoice with a credit to the dealer for vehicles that did not get a Locker.
I saw on CCOA and article about the number of surviving cars and they showed around 2% base on people who had registered with them. I thought it would have been closer to 10% at least on the “special” cars. I guess the special one’s may have been driven harder i.e crashed more. It is up to us to restore they cars before we get to old. Not like our kids will do it. A neighbor has a 73 'cuda which he says he is going to restore when he has the time/funds. I have seen that car sitting for close to 20 years and no he won’t sell it.
